Comments on: A writing lesson from Toastmasters https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/ & Gray-Grant Communications Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:08:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Daphne Gray-Grant https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-677 Fri, 25 May 2012 21:40:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-677 In reply to Ron Friedman.

Thanks for posting, Ron. I like your reason for joining Toastmasters – it makes so much sense. You don’t have to be “bad” at something to learn how to do it “better.” And, of course, it’s always a benefit when you can surround yourself with others who are interested in accomplishing the same thing.

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By: Ron Friedman https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-675 Fri, 25 May 2012 18:15:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-675 Daphne, how appropriate your 4/24/12 column was! I joined a TM group last month, a closed group here at Abbott Park, and I have gotten SO much more praise and encouragement from this bunch in a month than any/all of the 60 or so “colleagues” I have worked among over the past four years!

I joined not because I believed I was a tepid or timid speaker, but because I wanted to immerse – and surround – myself with those who could provide kinship. A kinship of excelling together, no matter at what level. (I’ve been fortunate to receive quite the complement of kudos and encouragement to continue, even invited to become a leader in the regional directors group, which I said yes to.)

I will share your column with the Abbott Toastmasters group, but wanted to give you credit for another fantastic column.

P.S. It feels awkward to use the common TM abbreviation as I spent about four years in my early 20s devoted to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’s teachings (Transcendental Meditation, or TM), going so far on my quest to reach enlightenment that I attended Maharishi International University (Fairfield, Iowa) for about two years. I am very satisfied that it serendipitously led me on another path of “enlightenment,” on which I’ve stayed with varying degrees of “success” since my mid 20s.

P.S.S. Sorry I was so late in getting this out! (It took file cleanup day at work to make it happen.)

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By: Daphne Gray-Grant https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-469 Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:46:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-469 In reply to RustyL.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Rusty. I think you are very wise to leave the critiquing to the critique groups. That way, at least, people know what they’re in for.

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By: RustyL https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-455 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:45:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-455 Hi Daphne,
I agree, in part, that you always have an option to leave a writing group. I had the pleasure of managing a community writing support group …Lucerne Valley Writers’ Ink… for nine years. We had our ups and downs with as many as 23 members and as few as three. We had guest speakers and we had minor disagreements but we never insisted of the group to perform in our writing exercises. The stress of being told to produce 500 words or 10 pages was never on our agenda. Our idea was to leave critiquing for critique groups. We tried it once and lost many members. Writer’s egos are fragile things. We offered support and expanded our skills with writing exercises that often propelled us out of our comfort zones. We encouraged members in whatever writing level or genre they pursued. Although we disbanded a few years ago, we never had standing ovations.

We are also fortunate in California to have the 100-year-old California Writers Club with 17 branches statewide. My local branch is now the fastest growing with 101 members. The smaller critique groups are formed with encouragement behind every word we share, and they meet in members’ homes for a more relaxing environment. Some are genre-specific; others like mine are mixed genres. Many members have solid writing and editing backgrounds so we mentor as much as offer corrections. Our branch has devoted writers, readers, panel discussions, high-quality guest speakers, and workshops. I realize not all regions have such an organization as this but if you do, please take advantage of it.

The reasons that you want to be with other writers is to find camaraderie, encouragement, education, and sharing ideas. If you can’t fill those needs, leave. If you do find one, enjoy the ride for as long as you can.

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By: Daphne Gray-Grant https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-450 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:02:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-450 In reply to Warren Baldwin.

Thanks for your praise, Warren!!

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By: Daphne Gray-Grant https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-449 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:01:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-449 In reply to Doreen Pendgracs.

I think the writing groups you are talking about Doreen are a bit different from the ones I mentioned in my column. I agree that groups such as PWAC are a great idea! They are wonderfully supportive. My major quibble is with the so called “critique” groups.

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By: Doreen Pendgracs https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-448 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:15:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-448 Great article, Daphne, and one that I can speak to on both levels — that as of a Toastmaster, and that of a professional writer.

I’ve been a TM for 11 years and LOVE it! There is no more positive atmosphere than you find at a TM mtg. Yes, we clap a lot … but it’s all in the spirit of positive reinforcement.

With respect to being a writer, what has worked best for me is belonging to several professional writers grps. I’ve found PWAC (the Professional Writers Assn of Canada) to be one of the most amazingly positive orgs I’ve ever belonged to. Whether we need a quick answer to any writing-related question, just want to hang out at a virtual water-cooler or are giving or receiving a job (freelance writing project) referral, we get it all thru the assn’s 3 listservs.

We’re all opinionated, but that’s OK! We’re all adults and all professionals, so it you take it as it comes, and for the most part … it’s most helpful.

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By: Warren Baldwin https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-445 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:00:00 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-445 Linked here from Luke’s blog. Excellent post. Whether writing, speaking, or playing soccer (my wife and I coach a kindergarten age team), praise is heard and appropriated. Good job.

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By: Praising Practice | Sonlight Blog https://www.publicationcoach.com/a-writing-lesson-from-toastmasters/#comment-432 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:34:54 +0000 http://pubcoach2018.wpengine.com/?p=2619#comment-432 […] this week, I read Daphne Gray's advice that we find people who will praise and applaud us–even if we don't necessarily deserve it. I was immediately reminded of the classroom when she said […]

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